So… It appears I’ve opened a can of worms…

You see, Boardroom’s upcoming event, The Titans of Direct Response, is missing something…

Women speakers.

Actually, it’s missing a lot of things, if diversity is your primary goal. African Americans. Latinos. There’s only one Asian.

But I’ve received multiple complaints that there are no women…

It’s been the subject of many conversations…

And I want to say — you’re right!

There ARE no women represented there. (Or African Americans, or Latinos, or other minority groups.)

And perhaps there should be.

I’m happy to address that directly.

From working behind the scenes on this event, I’ll tell you…

Women (and other minorities) were NOT intentionally EXCLUDED…

They were also NOT intentionally INCLUDED for the sake of having them in the lineup, or getting more women in the audience…

(Should they have been?)

The process for choosing those speakers was to simply look at the folks who were the most influential in the direct response world since Boardroom was founded in 1972… The innovators… The authors… The teachers…

To look at who Marty Edelston turned to most often to help him with the growth of his business (this is a tribute event to his life and work)…

And to highlight the copywriters who have created the most profitable direct mail for Boardroom in the last couple decades…

And that’s how the lineup of speakers was created…

Which, in this case, filled the lineup with all men.

Does that turn it into an “Old Boy’s Club?”

Maybe…

Does it reflect inherent bias against women as business thought leaders in our society and industry?

Probably…

Does it mean women cannot succeed in business, direct response, or copywriting?

Absolutely NOT!

Look at folks like Carline Anglade-Cole, Lorrie Morgan-Ferrero, Mary Ellen Tribby and others…

There are some amazing women doing amazing work in direct response. Who — especially in the last 10-20 years — have bucked the trend and shown that women are highly capable of rising to success in this industry.

Were they in particular influential in the development of Boardroom to the company it is today? Not to the same degree as the Titans speaking at the event. It doesn’t mean they’re not influential and don’t deserve the stage — it just didn’t put them at the top of the list for this particular event.

Have there been other women instrumental in building Boardroom into the business it is today? Absolutely. Both of Marty’s daughters, Marjory Abrams and Sarah Hiner, have been core parts of the team for decades — though mostly as editorial and business leaders. And if this were an event about publishing, they’d likely be taking center stage.

Though because this is an event on direct response, built around the people that drove Boardroom’s direct response marketing machine, this is the lineup that made the most sense.

Some of the feedback I got as part of the conversation was very interesting though…

Mary Rose Maguire pointed to Jane Maas, whose spent an entire career writing compelling copy for Ogilvy & Mather… And others piled on with lists of other successful women copywriters and direct marketers… Women who are deserving of direct response accolades…

Quite a few women added that a combination of social pressures and internalization of expectations HAD made it harder for them to get recognition, get the big fees, and be a success in our industry, or others where they’d come from prior to copywriting…

Beth Caro Carson came into the field later in life, after considering homeschooling and raising her daughter her most important job for more than a dozen years… Beth said she was perfectly happy to not be a Titan of the work world, but rather happy to be a Titan of her family…

There are a lot of angles and factors to this…

“Equality” is a tricky subject. Because from the day we’re conceived, NONE of us are truly equal…

But, with a daughter of my own (and even before I had one) I fully support equal opportunities.

And I recognize that it’s damn hard in practice.

It’s human nature to “clump” things…

Whether that’s perceptions of gender…

Perceptions of race…

Perceptions of whatever…

Our brains are literally built for pre-judging… It helped us survive in a different time.

And it still influences EVERYTHING.

Including, I’m sure, the lifelong networking and selection process that led to the speakers for the Titans event.

Is it “right?” Should we do something to change it?

Well, I think the first thing to do is make sure that we — personally — are breaking the molds ourselves…

I just saw a study that girls growing up in a house where household chores are divided between the mom and dad are more likely to believe they can be anything, regardless of traditional gender expectations…

I’m happy that I already do my share of the dishes, and laundry, and cleaning — if it will help my daughter be more confident…

I also think that while it’s good to recognize this, it’s important not to “check out.”

I got an email that claimed this event was obviously a “no girls allowed” affair. And I assure you it’s not. Women are just as welcome as men. (I know many who have already registered — women whose direct response knowledge and experience far exceeds my own.)

And if as a woman you choose to stay home on that factor alone…

First, you won’t recognize how many women will be there, and fully welcome…

Second, you’ll miss an incredible educational opportunity that could help you grab a spot — as a woman — on a future lineup…

The experience and results these speakers have been responsible for are NOT exclusive to men.

One of the things I love about direct marketing is it’s a great leveler…

If you can generate response, you can generate response.

I don’t know that this conversation will change the lineup for this event. But I’m sure happy it’s happening.

Before I sign off, I want to share an article that was sparked by this conversation…

Mary Rose Maguire was inspired by this conversation… And reflected on her own personal journey… And what it was that she saw led to her, as a woman, making less as a copywriter than men (and other women with her).

And, maybe a big step forward.

I think this is a good thing to read, no matter what your gender is…

Why Women Copywriters Don’t Make As Much Money As Men

By Mary Rose Maguire

By Mary Rose Maguire

Just today, a topic came up in a closed copywriter’s group that has been on my mind for a long, long time.

The question: Where are all the female “Titan” copywriters?

An upcoming copywriting event was discussed, featuring a group of heavy-hitters, copywriting “Rock Stars,” if you will. And all twelve of them are men.

Not one woman is featured.

Now this isn’t a new development. I’ve tracked a variety of industries where the men dominate the stage. They’re the thought-leaders people follow. A few women are starting to enter the ring, but not many. Certainly not in proportion to all the hard-working, talented women out there who are probably wondering the same thing—why aren’t more of us giving presentations, writing books, acknowledged as thought-leaders?

A Fifty-Cent Lesson In Persistence

In the famous book by Napoleon Hill, Think And Grow Rich, he told the story about a young girl who wouldn’t take no for an answer.

One day, a man was helping his uncle grind wheat in an old-fashioned mill. Suddenly, the door slowly opened and a small child, the daughter of one of the black sharecrop farmers, slipped in. The man’s uncle looked at her and roughly said, “What do you want?”

She responded that she had come to collect her mother’s money, which was fifty cents. The uncle, a hard man, was not to be trifled with and denied the request. He told the young girl to leave.

But she didn’t move. Not one inch.

So the uncle went about his work, becoming so busy that he didn’t notice that she hadn’t left. When he saw she was still standing there, he got angry and yelled at her.

“I told you to go on home! Now go, or I’ll take a switch to you.”

But she did not budge.

Finally, he dropped a sack of grain and picked up a barrel stave. He started to walk toward her with an expression on his face that spelled trouble.

The nephew was certain he was about to witness an assault. He knew that his uncle had a nasty temper.

When the uncle reached the spot where the little girl was standing, she quickly stepped forward one step, looked straight into his eyes and screamed, “My mom’s gotta have that fifty cents!”

The uncle stopped, looked at her for a minute, slowly laid the barrel stave on the floor,and then reached into his pocket to take out a half dollar and gave it to her.

She took the money and slowly backed out of the room, never taking her eyes off the man whom she had just conquered.

After she left, the uncle pondered the incident, trying to figure out why he gave in.

My immediate thought was that although the uncle was intimidating, something else motivated this young girl to stand up to him. Perhaps her mother told her she’d get a whipping if she returned home without the money. Or maybe she had a bad day and was determined not to accept one more rejection.

Whatever the reason, the small girl showed incredible courage in the face of opposition. She was determined to get that fifty cents and showed she wasn’t going to take no for an answer, even if meant getting whipped with a barrel stave.

The Reluctance to Toot Your Own Horn

Years ago, I listened to a book on tape by Caroline Myss, a well-known author who describes herself as a mystic. But she’s unlike a typical perception of a mystic. Straightforward and bold, she speaks her mind with no apology.

While listening to the recording, Myss relayed the story about being on some committee and various jobs were being handed out. I may not have this story exactly right, but at some point, she volunteered to do the marketing and said, “I’m good at it.”

A woman sitting next to her drew back and said, “My. Aren’t we humble?”

Caroline looked at her plainly and said, “What? Am I supposed to hide my talent? I am good at marketing. I know I’m good at it. So why not say so?”

Caroline Myss did something that crushed the “status quo” of women everywhere. Not only did she know what she was good at—she declared it to a room full of people without batting an eyelash.

No false modesty.

No shuffling of the feet with eyes downcast while mumbling, “Hey, I’ll help with marketing.”

And none of this silliness of being silent, thinking someone else could step up to the plate while knowing all along that she could rock that marketing agenda like no one’s business.

This is what women need to do. And they need to do it today. Not tomorrow. Not next week. And not next year.

They need to do it now.

The Story of the Ballsy New Copywriting Guy

There once was a guy who had completely lost everything in his life. He lost his job, his girlfriend, and his home all within short order.

He was living in his car when he discovered copywriting. And he knew this was his chance to achieve something. To build a strong financial future. To make his mark in the world.

There was nothing else. To say he was desperate to succeed would be an understatement.

So he found the copywriting classic books and read them from cover to cover. Studied them in depth, and trained himself to write killer copy.

One day he came upon a job ad in the newspaper, advertising for a copywriter. He was thrilled because he knew he had the goods. He had started to market himself and realized that he knew more about copywriting than most of the copywriters in the ad agencies.

So he applied for this job, expecting to at least get an interview.

Except he didn’t get an interview. Instead, he got a form letter that told him his application was rejected.

Well, that letter corkscrewed him into the roof of his car. He was furious. It was obvious from the letter that whomever was on the receiving end of his application didn’t even look at his samples.

He found the office of the company who advertised the position, and it just happened to belong to Jay Abraham.

If you don’t know who Jay Abraham is, let’s just say he’s a huge copywriting and marketing rockstar. Very smart guy. Very successful. And very rich.

The copywriter was going to give him a piece of his mind. He marched right into the office, ignored the secretary who frantically tried to prevent him from entering Jay’s office, and made himself known.

Surprisingly, Jay didn’t call the police but instead started to talk to this copywriter. When he found out he had applied for the job, they started to talk about all the classic advertising and copywriting books and found they had read the same list. Long story short, Abraham gave this copywriter free rein to roam the office for one year, help out here and there without pay while the copywriter absorbed all the great marketing knowledge Abraham could offer.

The copywriter knew he struck gold and grabbed the opportunity. And that’s how John Carlton, “The Most Ripped-Off Copywriter” got his start.

What Women Do

I love John Carlton’s story. It reminds me so much of that little girl who refused to leave until she got her fifty cents. But it also made me ask this question:

What would a woman in John’s position do if she had received a form letter rejecting her, knowing that she had the goods?

I think I can safely say that just about every woman would have shrugged and said, “Oh, I really did want that job but… oh, well. I guess it wasn’t meant to be.”

Then sigh, call up her girlfriend and share her disappointment.

Here’s the deal.

Women wait to be asked.

Women wait to be invited.

Women… wait.

We grew up with turn-taking games like hopscotch and jump rope. We learned that it’s important to share and if we went after something with gusto, were told not to be greedy.

Unless we were involved in sports, we didn’t learn about competition and how a little pain can go a long way toward toughening you up for the next round.

The more I’ve learned about how some of these A-list copywriters got their start, the more I see how courage, boldness, and no small amount of chutzpah contributed to their success.

The bottom line is that the most well-paid male copywriters I know, do not wait around to be noticed. They don’t accept clients who refuse to recognize their worth.

And they don’t ask to be paid their high fees. They demand it. There is simply no way to hire them unless one is willing to accept their conditions.

So What Can You Do?

You need to be bold.

You need to be courageous.

To swipe a line from “The Matrix,” you need to believe in yourself and know deep inside, from “balls to bone” that you are gifted. Talented. Skilled. And able to make your clients successful.

Notice I didn’t say it was easy. It’s simple but goodness knows… not easy. Especially if you grew up being a people-pleaser and exerted a great deal of energy trying not to stand out.

Because if you did stand out, there was a good chance something awful would happen that would rain shame upon your head and you’d be forced to live the rest of your life as a hermit.

Or so you told yourself.

To succeed in anything means taking a risk. If you’ve not taken many risks, start doing it now. Learn how to conquer fear.

Afraid of public speaking? Join a Toastmaster’s group. They’ll teach you.

Afraid of heights? Ask a friend to accompany you to the top of a building and walk to the window to drink in the view.

Afraid of the water? Take swimming lessons.

Don’t let anything conquer you or keep you down. The more (acceptable) risks you can take that won’t risk your life, the better.

Here’s a small one that I did years ago:

I’m usually a very polite person. If someone requests something that is reasonable, I will almost always comply.

One day, I was at a furniture store. For some reason, the salesman was chatting with me and then asked me to wait while he walked away. I can’t remember asking to be shown anything because I wasn’t ready to make a purchase.

But… there I stood. Waiting. Obediently waiting.

And then it dawned on me.

Why am I waiting for a salesman to return when really, I have no intention of buying?

I turned and walked out the door.

It was a very tiny thing, but I confess I felt a sense of accomplishment when I went outside. For someone who was a people-pleaser up to that point, it was a small risk that delivered big results. It was the beginning of me owning my own preferences instead of immediately trying to figure out what someone else wanted and placing that before my own desires.

The salesman did not come running out of the store and into the parking lot, yelling, “I told you to wait!”

Nothing happened except the valuable realization that I didn’t have to passively accept life’s developments. I had a choice. I always had the choice but finally, I understood it.

You have a choice too.

So the next time a prospect wants to pay you $20 to write a blog post, you say no. You tell him your fee for writing an 800+ word blog post starts at $200. You clearly say what you provide for that amount. And then you listen for the prospect’s response.

The next step is up to you. Imagine you’re John Carlton, if you’d like. Or Donald Trump.

Would they accept pennies for their talent? I don’t think so.

If you’re happy with $20 and have no intention of trying to get better paying gigs, then fair enough. That’s what you’ll continue to receive.

But if you do want to get better clients, you’ll need to be bold.

Willing to let go of those who only want to take advantage of you.

Because if you want to be an A-list copywriter or a “Rock Star” in your field, you’ll need to take the bull by the horns and persevere.

No matter where you are now, challenge yourself to go higher, further, deeper. The most successful copywriters are already doing it.

The spoils of the war go to those who fight—and win the battles.

ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED AT: http://www.maryrosemaguire.com/2014/05/23/women-copywriters-dont-make-much-money-men/

Taking personal responsibility, as Mary Rose suggested, won’t immediately change the world around you. But it’s a good first step. At it just might change YOUR world.

And if you’re ever dealing with someone who doesn’t respect you, whether it’s for your gender, your race, your whatever… And they’re too dumb or stubborn-headed to change their mind… Walk away. That’s a person you don’t want in your life.

Yours for bigger breakthroughs,

Roy Furr

Editor, Breakthrough Marketing Secrets